22re will not idle. If the leak is bad enough the engine may not idle at all.
22re will not idle filter, efi relay, fuel pump 22RE rough idle, loss of power. It has 2 coolant lines, one coming in from the water pump, and the 2nd runs out to the bottom of the throttle body. If the carb wasn't assembled properly it's not likely it would pass emmisions testing. Check the air inlet boots - especially at the throttle body end. Discussion in '1st Gen 4Runners (1984-1989)' started by Simon, Nov 17, 2020. 22RE high pitched noise/intermittent at idle. Matt. I have an 88 4x4 pickup with a 22RE EFI I replaced the TPS as well as the Small air valve that is suppose to re direct the air or something (the idle up valve I think, sits on Thanks DCM! Not sure on when fuel pump was replaced, not in the past 10 years I've been driving it at least. 22re crankcase vacuum to high. when its warm it idles a little better but still dies often. Engine dies but stars back up again but have to. blah, blah, blah. 11 posts · Joined 2003 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Jan 15, 2003. I have a 87 22r that will not idle because the fuel shut off valve does not receive B+ when the key is on. Topic: Erratic Idle on 22RE; Pages: [1] Go Down . Fixing myself. TheSteve Discussion starter. 1995 4runner idle problem: jackiemc08: Classic T4Rs: 2: 02-17-2012 03:09 PM: Vibration in V8 2004 at idle complete stop-changes when I turn wheel: 4runnerfrenzy: Problems & Warranty Issues: 3: 01-16-2011 01:01 AM: Checked everywhere: Vibration at idle complete stop- V8-changes when I turn the wheel: 4runnerfrenzy: 4th Gen T4Rs: 2: 11-22-2010 12 Just here helping out anyone stuck on a rough idle/hard start. Save Share Reply Quote Like. It's not nessicarily a start and Everything from hard start issues, rough idle, mis-fire, lack of power. These tend to Infamous idle surge issue with the 22re, Truck would not hold a steady idle, and would hunt around rpm range. Check Engine Light comes on Vehicle: 1992 Toyota Pickup 22re. Mine was doing the same thing, where it ran fine past 1K but would die coming to a stop or idling. Toyota 4Runner Forum - Largest 4Runner Forum > Toyota 4Runner Forum > Classic T4Rs > 22RE won't idle: User Tag List: Reply Thread Tools: Rate Thread: Display Modes: 12-11-2018, 01:05 PM #1: 404NotFound. Jan 17, 2025, 04:54:45 AM . vance Discussion starter. It's only when I'm in gear that this happens. But the idle mix screw could be a problem. 1: EGR leaking. The control solenoid on my high idle is bad and to get my A/C to stay on it I have to tweak my idle right up to 950. The Idle Air Control Valve (IACV) may need cleaning or replacement. superyota. ive installed all new seals and replaced all of the cracking hoses. i have seen people adjust the stop rather then the idle screw in order to adjust the idle, this will throw off the tps and possibly let to much air past for the idle screw to correct. but is not an idle problem. Thats on the side where The 22RE should idle around 800rpm when warm. 97 MUD price. (22RE) or 0. Member : Join Date: May 2015. Unplugged tps, seemed to make a difference at idle but still wouldn't move. The idle will just stop at like 1500 RPM and wont go back to 800RPM(Idle) inless i rev it. BrianP510. The engine doesn't run smooth and #1 cylinder has almost no effect on engine speed when I remove the spark plug lead. The number on the invoice is 88606-0. How much voltage was on the battery when you turned the key? high idle will make the motor lope when brake applied. Bad TPS 22re's are horrible for cludge buildup in the intake and TB, totally screws with the idle. It also started to occasionally fall completely flat on initial acceleration when in gear (manual). i’ve cleaned the throttle body with carb cleaner (however i did not clean the idle speed screw hole area, just the intake), and i’ve played with the idle adjustment screw a bunch. kuponer Discussion starter. Before you replaced your underpowered, sewing machine smooth stock 22re, the thing idled smooth. , weak fuel pump, clogged filter, bad plugs, failing coil, etc. The issue: When I start the truck it high idles (like it is suppose to) at 2300 rpm. This 1992 22re seems to be different from the 22RE Cant idle after headgasket job. I have to disagree with saying the idle is not high, it should be set between 1200-1400. 1988 4Runner, 22RE. Your motor will idle smoother and cooler with the extra timing. there is no gas leaks coming from Well I just finished up a 22re swap. replaced the fuel pump. Jump to Latest 963 views 3 replies 0 participants last post by btokfans May 26, 2006. Aftermarket temp gauge showed the truck was warmed up and running Or you have no power throughout the band? My 22re runs beautifully but i have never heard it bounce the rev limiter. 6K views 15 replies 5 participants last post by Marco St-Pierre Apr 14, 2022. I'm not sure how much the ECU relies on the ECT sensor reading on the earlier engines like the 22RE but with my 3rzfe, it did exactly what yer experiencing. fister13 Discussion starter. when i weak up in the morning to warm up the truck it takes 2cranks to start the truck. I have managed to stop the stalling but not how I would like to. my truck with the 22re has had the same problems, cleaned the intake, replaced fuel filter, cleaned throttle, cleaned egr . So when the truck sits for at least 8 hours sometimes it misses at idle when you first start it. Location of ECM on 22RE generally to the right of the throttle body under the tube running to the radiator green generally, has another identical plug to the left side, ECM is to the right. I just brushed it off to the motor not having titanium valve springs or something. K. Low coolant temperature can cause the Idle air bypass valve to stay open raising the idle. Links below may help trouble shoot your issue. Simon [OP] New Member. Ever since I've got the truck I have been fighting misfires. 4L 4 cylinder. It seems to be missing but it's not, could there be something in the carb maybe. One cylinder Problem solved for 22RE running rich, rough, and surging at RPM ranges. One night I was at the drags and my car was running hot in the staging lanes, I swapped the vacuum advance from ported to manifold then it would idle all night at 175°. 22re High Idle. Engine will idle up and down for a few minutes when warm, then suddenly The 22RE is in a 1986 4runner. Car Specialist. At this point I just don't really know where to start. Location: Right near Boston This spring the fast idle would not kick down once the outside temperature was above 60 degrees. Author Topic: Erratic Idle on 22RE (Read 8633 times) 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. 651 posts · Joined 2007 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Mar 18, 2007. It is located under the throttle body and The cam timing mark not the dowel is at the 1145 position and from everything I've read is the correct orientation of it. I am unable to get my newly rebuilt 22re running correctly. So the A/C idle does not seem to be working. but now theres is a problem i cant figure out. 2: lean combustion for any of many reasons, is EFI holding closed loop status at hot idle, (no , fix that first. Ever sense its been put in there has been this dumb problem with the idle and when i wheel its really annoying. i then played arround with the throttle a lil to see I finally got the 22RE in my 91 all put back together and running. Idle surges when I apply the brakes. if left unattended, then it would start and run fine. T. Engine rebuilt less than 15k ago. Don’t do it. 36,364 Satisfied Customers. By having both a manual cold start switch and a high idle switch I can achieve the same function, just have to press the switches. after about 45 seconds of idling the vacuum in the crank case gets so high that you can hear this high pitch squealing noise coming from And further note that you DO NOT ADJUST the idle speed with either the throttle stop screw, the dashpot screw or the white plastic knob atop the A/C (or P/S) idle-up valve on the intake or with the "RPM" knob on the A/C Amplifier "black box" behind the glove box. Location: Oklahoma. As the engine warms, the idle pulses until warm. Car bogs and/or stalls when trying to give gas or drive during this period. Vehicle idled fine with no issues up until recently. What should the 22Re generally idle at? well i managed to get the truck to stop bouncing idle when braking by adjsting the hell out of the timing and the air adjustor screws. Mine is similar with the valve-like noise at higher rpm. I haven't had a 22RE before so I guess I could just not know but it sure SOUNDS high. It started with having very low compression inside the #1 cylinder. I have read that there is a performance improvement. it just decided to crap out on me when i went into the store for 1 I have an ’89 2wd Toyota pickup, manual Trans with 22re. 88 22RE with manual trans (straight throttle body, 08/88 and up): 22230-35030 $214. Ordered the parts yesterday from Sam to tear it apart. Days after that, I started The only problem I have left is that the thing will not start when it's cold (the engine, not the outside temp). Idle problems and 22RE are almost always either the tps or the IAC. It starts right up and pretty much runs on 3 cylinders for 30 I'm having idle problems, but only when it's cold, so I suspect it's the infamous Idle Air Valve (or whatever it's called) on the bottom of the throttle body. Have a problem with my pickup. number. The problem seems to be getting worse because "cold" is now anything under 100 degrees outside. When the engine is cold it idles at a super high rpm. . Compared to all the hot rod motors ive built this is rediculously weak, Im used to minimum 30lbs at idle hot. Jump to Latest 3. 262 posts · Joined 2006 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Sep 4, 2013. The truck will barely idle and will die sometimes when i go to slow down Turn that and see if it effects the idle. Any help would be great, thanks. but takes time to perform. It ain't going to work right unless it is hooked up correctly and all the parts 1990 22re idle issue. Jump to Latest it may be able to close more than it should choking off air beyond what the idle speed motor can compensate for. I'd buy it. Timing is set properly, well, as properly as I can get it given the high idle. It then I had a very simiar experience (except the clicking sound) on my 89 22RE. The idle circuit has a fuel cut off valve built into it. The high idle will also be useful for when I want just a tad more throttle than a normal idle for use in low range, or when I have the AC on. After engine warms up idle drops down and with A/C on it is almost stalling. 1993 22Re. It did for a little while after that but then a few days later it was as dead as a doornail. Open up the plastic 22re rough idle miss. Member's Picture Albums. Jump to Latest 7. Idle problems in 22 RE engine Thread starter dserthikr; Start date Jan 19, 2014; This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, As some have already mentioned the 22RE does not have a Mass Air Flow sensor(MAF), older EFI engines have an Air Flow Meeter (AFM), Also mentioned was the fact that the AFM is controlling the fuel Getting a 22re to idle "perfect" can sometimes take some work, including adjusting the TPS and replacing worn components, down to and including the throttle body itself. The more air, the faster the idle. Runs fine until engine warms up and after the vehicle starts '85 4Runner, 22RE 5spd Hadn't run it for over a year, wouldn't start cold, used some starter fluid and it ran fine. When it's cold it will idle great but soon as it gets too running temp and I shut it off to run in the store and come back out and start it the idle drops to around 500 rpm and it idles rough and shakes the truck and I notice the smell of gas and it's getting bad gas mileage. My 22re idles cold at that BUT it drops to 750 when warm. - 1984-1988 Toyota Pickup 1985 22re with manual trans will not idle after engine gets warm. This can change while you are driving. They should all be the same colour. Short of a vacuum leak, the idle fuel cut solenoid seems to create this problem on Toyotas. donkengine Discussion starter. Then set idle to 800-850, wherever it seems most comfortable. Comp 260s cam, Pacesetter header, 2 1/4 straight piped, 50 Series Flowmaster, K&N cone filter adaptor, bunch of other useless shit Engine sounds perfectly healthy at idle & neutral rev to 4k. Problem: After rebuilding my 85 22re engine I have been unable to set the timing correctly. start with the easy stuff, then move onto adjusting the TPS and so on. Now my problem is worse than ever. I definitely do not keep it there to find out whats going to happen next. D. Between 1200-1500rpms then I’d need to give it a rev to bring it back I'm trying to figure out what is wrong with my 92 22re, I thought my idle air control valve was bad, it's always ran kinda erratic idled low 450 500 & surges never would die. Post Reply. Check the PAIR valve & vsv by following steps in fsm. I recently changed out the head, and since then I have had an odd issue with the idle. ALL the hot idle is 800 rpm bad idle surgine is caused by. xr8ed Discussion starter. In not to familiar with the 22re THE IDLE SPEED SCREW IS NOT AVAILABLE NEW, YOU'LL HAVE TO FIND A USED ONE. Will not move, will not idle. Too low idle. Pavlin Koev. Took that system off, clean entire thing all the way from exhaust pipe to carb, rebuilt carb also. That part is no longer available and has been changed to 88606-35020 which is the part I have on order. Ignition timing was way off. after that, the problems started. M. Make sure you have no vacuum leaks and you adjust your TPS to specs first though. The As the title says, our 1993 Toyota with 22RE just wouldn't crank or start one day. Age: 30. Replace it to keep the idle speed screw in place and sealed up. You're refering to the plate stop to prevent the plate from sticking closed. Might not be what is wrong, but its Coolant system has been completely flushed and is full with no bubbles. It has a really rough idle, and loss of power. Hey Folks, All of a sudden, my 1988 Toyota Truck, 22-RE will not idle. Othewise all these months, the power My 22RE Idles really rough. Dubshot Well-Known Member. stays running but smells awful of fuel (so its not a supply problem). Reply reply More replies More replies More replies More replies. Weldo. This allows the tension of the coil in the choke housing to rotate the fast idle cam and choke butterfly’s into the starting position, which is choke butterfly closed and fast idle cam at highest setting. 4L 22RTE 2. THE BLACK PEARL recent mods: one eyed jack-in-the-box ball :burnout: 88 Toyota 4X4 22re. Once warm it runs like a top and I have no problems. I can turn on the A/C and somtimes it brings the idle up to about 900 but it still feels rough. We’ve seen people use silicone, teflon tape and even loc-tite to make it stay in place. basically what was happening is truck would not start all the time. They will mess a 22re all up since they will not let the AFM read correctly. If it does not idle up about 50rpm when the A/C is turned on, It ain't workin right. 22re idle problems. Other then the idle the engine runs great at all RPM's above 1000. F. Idles fine at start up if not a little high since I adjusted the idle to compensate for the rougher idle when warm. Joined: Aug 23, 2020 Member: #16279 Messages: 18 Gender: Male. Posts: 122 1985 22re with manual trans will not idle after engine gets warm. 83 posts · Joined 2007 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Jan 14, 2009. It runs for maybe 3min and then drops off of the high idle. But in cold weather the truck idles 1995 22re not wanting to idle below 1k rpm . Not setting your 22R/22RE timing properly can lead to After replacing igniter the truck will not idle, we have did a full tune-up and double checked everything. Changed 22re out timing is set right but still runs rough and will not idle. Also AFM didnt seem to be staying open thus the Check to make sure the throttle body is not closing 100% of the way, it should be open a tiny amount so it can idle. Is the air box and lid properly secured with no leaks or splits in the intake tube. This is achieved by going up a steep hill, or jacking the front end up, start the motor and let idle. Have tested with a stethascope, can't hear any leak. Marco St-Pierre Discussion starter. Prestige Worldwide; Silver Turtle Award; Turtle Points: 71; Posts: 3,362; Member since Oct '05; what happened? 22re smokes at idle The main point of this is I have a bad IACV causing all kinds of problems. This in turn will increase the cold idle speed, overriding the normal idle circuit. It's Toyota OEM#ND077100-0610,the 22RE is an 86,but engine and wiring not sure. My son has a 83 Toyota Celica with a 22re motor that is having an issue. Like 400-700 RPM's. Truck: 1981 Toyota Pickup Long Bed 5sp. I noticed that my idle rose randomly to 1800 RPM one day but went away shortly. it Engine Size: 22re As of recent I’ve been having this issue Please lmk if it sounds familiar to you if you know the solution When truck warms up after cold start it sits at factory idle speed (750rpms) When I drive it for about 15-20 mins idle becomes a little high. I do however, agree that leaving your idle where it is probably is fine. i got the best results by turning the air screw on the throttle body to the right as far as is would go and then i adjusted the timing to a slight retard . Have good fuel pressure. but it will not start by the ignition switch when its hot. Haynes book has been no help. See picture below for the location. I'd Check vacuum first as it can be a common cause. Rock Master; Turtle Points: 23; Posts: 352; Member since Oct '06; Santa Barbara, CA; 87 22re Idle problem My 1989 22R no a/c, no p/s, 4 speed super strip down developed a problem last year where the fast idle would not kick down. just a quick question to anyone who can answer it. It could be as simple as a dirty or dieing idle speed control motor if it has one, I know some older I converted a 22r to a 22re and it starts but dies, it will not idle, it will only run when giving it gas, like the pressing the gas pedal, or pulling on the Author Topic: 22RE Idle issue (Read 7114 times) 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. Make sure that the temp of the engine is correct, period. Unknown member Discussion starter. See if you can close it by hand at 1200 rpm and check if the idle drops. the odd thing is you can roll it off and it will start or prime it and it will start. Nov 17, 2020 at 7:19 PM #1 #1. Joined Mar 14, 2007 Messages 455 Also the idle up seems to work when engine is cold. The truck will also runs perfectly at idle and no misfire at all after 30minutes of running or more. 2. Set idle speed to 750 rpm by turning the big flathead screw on top of the throttle body. 3: ISC is out of control (ISC electric is the ECUs idle controller) 22R 2. Reply With Quote 07-14-2020, 08:50 PM #7: Melrose 4r. 1989-1995 Pickup 22R Basically I am trying to set the timing on my truck 86 turbo with an 85 22RE in it. and all EFI love to do that at a drop of hat. Its common for the 22re throttle body to get so caked in crap it sticks. I put a mechanical oil pressure gauge on my 85 runner, cold It had 30lbs or so at idle, 9-14 hot idle(700-750rpm), 45-50lbs or so at 2500rpm running 10-30 castrol syntec. I just replaced the idle up ac valve that sits on top of the intake manifold and it did nothing. Location: California. I let it idle till it sounds like it is just about to die (prob 30-45 sec), then I pump the gas pedal and it idles up and I drive it home and it runs like a champ. I have shot all the vacuum lines and components with carb cleaner with no change in idle. It has a low idle and shakes bad after warming up. BTW the big screw on top the throttle body is NOT the idle screw. I can get it to idle down with the A/C on. 1,813 Satisfied Customers. Not sure what this all means but thanks so far! 1985 Toyota Pickup-22r-4speed-2wd Bought for $500:chug: Save Share Topic: 87 22re Idle problem; Pages: [1] Go Down . Topic: 22re smokes at idle; Pages: [1] Go Down . 2 Replies 3126 Views Nov 09, 2015, 06:06:11 PM by Rivergoat: 1986 4Runner 22RE Intermittent Specs: 1989 toyota truck with 94 22re. I took it to the dealership and they told me it was the igniter. when starting up from cold it won't idle and runs on 3 cylinders at low rpms. My 1990 2wd pickup has a 22re with California emissions equipment. I have the timing set, the TPS set, new plugs, new wires, new rotor and cap, new exhaust, seafoamed the intake, here is the issue. If the valve fails or has any issues it can cause the idle speed to be thrown off. Not a lot of online sources for this part that I could find. Once reaching close to operating temperature the automatic choke circuit will then shut off. when driving the truck and you come to a complete stop at a light or stop sign with your foot on the brake, the engine will surge and almost act like its going to die. If this valve is sticky, the computer may have a hard time regulating the idle properly and may surge. mastercraft1995 Discussion starter 2 posts · Joined 2008 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Feb 6, 2008. also when warmed up if i floor it out of gear it won't rev up past 4,000 rpm. I jumped the terminal on the inside of the drivers side fender and set the timing at 5 deg but when i unhook the terminal/ turn the truck off and back on the timing does not change at all. Warm the engine up and put on a good timing light with tach or other tach reader and adjust the idle down. It always develops a dead miss. i need to know the circuit I have received 22re diagrams that are not the same as. Now there My 22re truck is hard to start sometimes, it starts well but stop immediately, or it's very hard to start and the rpm is low after starting sometimes hard to start but the rpm is ok. They are imfamous for cracking at the bellows. You should not have to adjust anything on the throttle body unless your TPS is out of adjustment. You can try adjusting the idle stop screw out a little bit to see if it helps. Reply. It would be up to you to choose if it is too high, and also messing with the idle air valve is very I have a 1993 Toyota truck 2wd that will not start once it gets hot. 1 post · Joined 2010 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Jan 29, 2010. Leads 22re- low/rough idle after warm start. I'm really not sure now, it runs fine at higher rpm's but won't idle at all. Erratic Idle on 22RE Hey guys, first post. Discussion in 'Maintenance/Repair' started by davidg1228, Mar 20, 2015. It's way off because that's the only way you can get it to idle at a reasonable speed. Toyota 4Runner Forum - Largest 4Runner Forum > Toyota 4Runner Forum > Classic T4Rs > COnfusionIdle screw or not? 22RE User Tag List: Reply Thread Tools: Rate Thread: Display Modes: 03-22-2008, 07:34 PM #1: prodigy2k7. Days after that, I started getting high cold start idle that would stay around 1700-2300 until the engine warmed up (idle surges a bit during this time) and thermostat kicked in. 1K views 7 replies 5 participants last post by Sidney Apr 2, 2007. You can bring idle back down to the 750 spec after the test. com and do not find reports of the idle miss in 22re Celicas but will keep reading. I have a 87 22re, 120k miles, the truck is tuned up correctly. Also, I've been trying to figure out 1992 22RE stumbling high idle issue . BEng, Repaired my own cars and others for 20 years, worked in Formula 1 for 10 years. Jump to Latest 16K views 12 replies 8 participants last post by xr8ed Mar 19, 2007. The diagram used to be only 88 pickup 22RE cold start/fast idle not working-HELP. dj_z00l4nd3r • I ran into this surging idle issue on my 88 22re after converting to a 1st gen bed and tail lights. I recently bought a 89 Toyota 4x4 with a 22re. Fuel may not be getting to the injectors due to clogged fuel tank vent lines or low fuel pressure. Other things to look at are the dashpot (is it moving freely), and throttle body linkage. And make sure the bypasses in the TB are not all gunked up. If you can find the information, check your coolant temp sensor and make sure it is reading correctly when the Check your idle screw on the throttle body. It currently has a bad stumbling problem and will not idle if I take my foot off the pedal. runs great to. Do you smell fuel? Since the fuel system is closed if you smell fuel under the hood check the charcoal canister and make sure it is not bad. Believe it or not the purpose of ported vacuum is to raise the temperature at idle, to lower hydrocarbon emissions. Anyways, the only thing that is kind of wierd is It is running super A/C idle-up not working on 22RE. Engine dies but stars back up again but have to maintain 2000 rpm or above or else it dies. I didn't get much response from the idle adjustment screw on the TB, replaced the iacv & after doing that I could kill the engine with the idle screw all the way in. So I replaced all the 22RE's do not have chokes, your problem does not sound like a problem except for your idle being to high. problem 2) the truck stumbles in the low rpms (< 2500) in any gear. The idle screw has been turned in all the way at this point, I'm still getting an estimated idle speed of 1500-2000rpm. The idle is still rough and I don't know another way to rule out the EGR I am getting close to the end of my knowledge and looking for new ideas. V. My 92 22re started having some driveability problems. If you happen to adjust the tps, recheck the idle and timing. I had minor problems for months, like engine misses when holding accelerator steady at 2k rpm, but only misses when at neutral, not surges. Go figure. Air in the system will not allow The truck runs on high idle OK, it starts off a little rough but then picks up to the proper speed. 4L 22RE 2. Jump to Latest 2. The problem is that the computer is basically "rev limiting" my engine at 2200rpm. I replaced the TPS sensor and completely cleaned 22re idle. If I were to just crank it nonstop (hold the key in start position) then it wouldn't ever start. Does that mean the TPS ain't working right? 86' Toyzuki, 112" wb, 4-link'd on 14" ORIs, welded F/R, pane'd 22RE, 4. by about 400-500 RPM's. Set timing to 5 deg BTDC with jumper attached per fsm. I'll check it again to make sure it's not packed full again. Timing and idle will not be as expected if you do not. Also tryed disconnecting the vacume line to I have an Enginebldr 268 in my 22re and it lopes, not misses at idle. Started by Rivergoat Engine. Hello, my pick up truck idles too fast (after warming up, dosen’t do it when cold) and when I step on the brakes the engine surges. My 22RE is new with only 5,000 miles on it. 88 Toyota 4X4 22re. Under a steady load or at idle for a long enough time the engine will get up to temp. It seems to idle down in hot weather, at least down enough to where the fuel cut solenoid does not kick in. This is a new issue as I would start it up every month or so and it was always able to idle, so I'm not quite sure why it suddenly will not. Aslo try unplugging the cold start injector and see if it still runs rich. High Idle Hi My 1989 with 22RE had a high idle condition that was very difficult to solve. what i have going on is the truck will start and idle great. The FSM says to test it by direct connection to the battery. 4L. If the engine is hot and i start it, it will start perfectly. Have you One outside area to check would be the engine coolant temp (ECT) sensor. The one time I parked on a decline, it started up fine on a hot restart. its either the tps is not set to be closed at idle or you have a broken idle sensor wire. 94 pickup, 22re, When I turn on the AC it wont idle up and it bogs the engine. 88' ex-cab 4x4 chassis with front diff and other 4x4 components removed, 4. Several with the 22R or 22RE. Shut it off and drained all the old gas, refueled, ran it up and back to the store (~5 miles), set it to idle for a while, and it died. You say your TPS is good so clean the damn IAC. I have screwed the idle screw all the way down and retarded the timing all the way back. once it starts, you can drive it non stop without any problems. 3 v6 swab and other major mods in It will have this rough idle for about 20 minutes or so or till the truck gets warmed up. They are a good indicator of many problems that occur and can save a lot of time isolating the problem. cbr954rr Discussion starter. truck runs great for thows years. Hello all I have been running into some issues with my 1990 22re. Compression is at about 120 in each cylinder. When I hit the throttle and let the engine return to idle the rpms drop below normal and almost stalls. Hence why I said to turn off the A/C. 1990 4runner, 3rz, tons, 40s, duals, and beats 94 22re 150,000+ miles standard 4x4 last fall, the exhuast was replaced including the converter. Compression is fine, not vacuum leaks, but it dies if the 22RE, EFI, MT, 125K miles. etc. 95 Pickup 22re. Cleaning and setting the TPS is important. I checked for vacuum leaks and found #1 injector seal was leaking. Throttle Body Idle Speed Adjusting Screw with O-Ring Stainless Steel Fits: 22RE 2. Clean with a good TB cleaner (I use a combinatin of TB cleaner and deep creep (seafoam in aerosol) to clean mine). Author Topic: 87 22re Idle problem (Read 14478 times) 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. I've got an 85 pickup with the 22re. I have a 22re in a 1986 pickup with 225k miles. I am not planning on swapping the entire EFI setup; just the upper half of the intake. Idle screw did not fix my issue so I started cleaning. but if you are driving in cold weather and go down a hill the coolant temp will drop causing the idle to be high again. I called around for an OEM mass airflow sensor and the pick and pull was asking $225 for the part, decided I'd start with an aftermarket for around $100. I had a rough idle where it would idle too low when cold and putter out. You will need 1 of this screw to go with 22RE 2. Add to quote #1 · May 26, 2006. C. Was not an issue before last summer. so i just bought an 89 pickup with a 22RE. 1992 5 speed 22RE with California emissions vac lines (I think) Recently I’ve been experiencing hard to start, occasional high idle (1700-2000 rpm), stumbling at 1900 rpm during acceleration, and a few times die when taken to neutral and come to a I have a 94 Toyota 22re pickup . This valve lets air bypass the throttle plate so that the engine can idle. A friend runner would run really rich unless he unplugged the CSI. Luigi that gizmo is the IAC or idle air control valve. Under moderate to I quickly checked a Celica forum toyotacelicas. Bought the truck 1 year ago from dealer. 8K views 7 replies 5 participants last post by Provience Sep 4, 2013. Its not hard and will be checked off the list or solve your problem. I know it's controlled by the big hex No AC When Idle/No Idle-Up. fast idle doesn't kick in when starting from cold. Whats wrong: idle screw is turned all the way in and idles around 1500 rpms whether its warm or cold. 50mm (3VZE) feeler gauge The meter should (hopefully) indicate The truck will also get a rough idle, hard starting, low idle after starting, engine stall after starting when the engine is cold even with the fuel pump test jumper. Logged 82' w/dual t-cases, desmoged, with minor mods. On cold start, no symptoms, makes a couple 20 minute trips okay. Cleaning out the throttle body with TB cleaner helped a little, then I replaced spark plugs, then what 1990 pickup with a 22re. This only happens when the engine is warm (startup and idle are fine when cold). 81 PickUp 22r will not idle. That's not going to solve the surge, but could be contributing to the high idle. These buggers will cause the exact "idle hunting" issues you're experiencing. 20 years hands on,Experience cars and The first thing I did was to attempt to set the idle speed and timing. I HAVE A 91 TOYOTA PICKUP 22RE I SWAPPED ENGINES AND PUT IN A 93 22RE. At idle, it surged a little for months, but when i hold acelerator its ok, just misses every 3 seconds. It’s simply the o-ring the on the adjuster screw itself. This will leave the idle control to the normal idle circuit of the carburetor. Jump to Latest 3K views 6 replies 4 participants last post by 83GTSguy Feb 12, 2008. Runs great lots of power and idles nice and smooth at 850 RPM when warmed up. Read on here about the EGR. If the leak is bad enough the engine may not idle at all. At an idle with the brake applied the ecu stops delivering fuel to the engine thus making the engine rev then drop--up and down--up and down--up and down (get all that?) until I 22re idle fluctuating I bought a 22re Toyota pickup 2 years ago. Ive heard toyota says minimum accaptable is 4lbs at hot idle. 4L I have a 93 2wd 22re with same issue. This truck has been great, but this is driving me crazy! Idle problem, 22RE. sometimes, it would start, run good, then sputter at times, stall, then all of a sudden run really good for a few days. 5 and has stock 4. N2Frodn. I read that Cam timing is spot on (cam mark at 11:45 when at tdc). the "misfire ( I'm not 100% sure that's exactly whats happening) only occurs between 2500-3500 rpms. 22RE, 5-speed, 144,000 miles. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > davidg1228 Member. I cleaned it today and it was packed full of sediment. This is the first time I ever needed professional help to make one run. I think this is a little high. This is an older thread, you may not receive a Hi I was hoping to get some help with the 22re in the 1985 4runner I picked up recently. Last edited by Melrose 4r; 07-14-2020 at 09:05 PM. That's why I'm Cranked today and now it seems to be runnin on only 2 cylinders at most and will not idle or hardly even run. Print . So far I've done cap, rotor, wires, valve adj, pcv, Help!!!!! I have noticed that when I turn on the AC the idle does not go up. The problem is when I start up the truck when it's already hot/warm. problem 1) When I start it warm, it fires up immediately and then the rpms drop to less than 200. like this with spark plugs in this condition and black smoke from exhaust to test the airflow meter to be sure it's not an issue. Bullshit, the 22re t-body has a idle air bypass screw on the top, r/h corner. New 22RE motor, (just rebuilt lower end) 1990 truck 4wd 5 speed. This may result in an unusually high or low idle speed, or in some cases a surging idle speed that repeatedly climbs and falls. G. 22re keeps stalling. My 86 with Def set the idle to the correct specs. 7K views 13 replies 10 participants last post by TheSteve Dec 1, 2006. It's cover has three little screws and vacuum hose going to it. The number on the parts diagram is 88606B. maddogtech. Wouldn't restart hot (would fire, stumble, and die). Then 6 months later my gas mileage went from 18MPG to 12 MPG. IVrunner. Comp 260s cam, Pacesetter header, 2 1/4 straight piped, 50 Series Flowmaster, K&N cone At idle speed only, be it stopped, out of gear with the engine at idle, or coasting to a stop with your foot off the gas, when you step on the brakes (no matter how hard) and the RPM's suddenly start fluctuating up and down and up and down and up and down etc. Got a 51 code from the diagnostics. I've replaced just about everything I can (all hoses, vacuum lines, cap, rotor, fuel filter) other than sensors and emission items. I have a 22re and have been chasing a problem for a It drives fine after this. _ No THANKs necessary ! 84 4Runner rockcrawler @lvec1 , Lou Vecchia, Possibly a stuck EGR valve or vacuum leak, although there are a lot of things that could cause idle problems, dirty carb. I troubleshot down to the head gasket, replaced head gasket with no problems. SWAP WENT GOOD, BUT NOW IT RUNS LIKE, TIMING It squirts a little fuel into the carb throat, opens the throttle and choke butterfly’s, and lifts the fast idle screw off the fast idle cam. I tryed to adjust the idle jet on top of the throtle body and even with it screwed all the way down, makes little difference. Ive sprayed starting fluid aroudn everything and idle has not gone up at all. Throttle stops are adjusted as low as they really can go to the point of almost not touching anything. 201k on the engine and 120K on the timing chain (I'll be replacing that soon) Plugs/wires have 46K on them and the cap and rotor was replaced last night. 10s still. Hey everyone, got an issue and wanted to get others input. then as i am walking away the idle starts to drop to where the truck is about to die, then the idle rises back - Idle drops even further when brakes are applied - Idle drops even further when on a downhill (carb normally only trips up on steep uphills) Simply plugging off the vacuum lines to and from the valve and modulator WILL NOT The mechanic was refering to that if the switch is by passed the "Idle up feature" will not happen and the compressor will load down your engine slightly possible lowwering your Idle speed below spec and possibly confusing the ECU. My truck runs great but when I start the vehicle after it's warmed up (running errands etc) it idles around 500 I have the upper intake from a 90 22RE as a spare but no lower. My problem im having is my idle shudders and misses every couple seconds and I DO NOT have a cold high idle at all. SOURCE: 1985 toyota 4x4 22re missing and rough idle Have you pulled out the spark plugs to see if there are any tell tale signs on them. My toyota pickup used to idle faster when turning on the air conditioner, now it doesn't. If its plumbed wrong or there is a problem with the A/C it will cause it to idle high. Jump to Latest 30K views 22 replies 15 participants last post by Alabamatoy Jun 14, 2003. On cold starts, it starts how it should. The reason why an engine with a cam lopes is because of valve overlap. The truck was rough when I got it, bad exhaust leaks, rough idle slight miss terrible oil leaks but it ran and seemed to have pretty decent power considering it is on 33x12. The timing is dead on, the computer is advancing like it should. 3,732 Satisfied Customers. It would die after it warmed up. It doesent die out but is on the verge. The rpm also fluctuates at idle I'm doing 280miles/tank w/ 31 and almost half of the mileage was on highway at 70mph. Author Topic: 22re smokes at idle (Read 8451 times) 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. 7 rear case, 36" Irocs on steel beadlocks, full hydro Toyota 4Runner Forum - Largest 4Runner Forum > Toyota 4Runner Forum > Classic T4Rs > Another high idle on 22re question User Tag List: Reply Thread Tools: Rate Thread: Display Modes: 02-05-2010, 10:37 AM #1 The idle problem slowly creeped up. Toyotaparts, the screw is adjusted all the way in. I replaced The idle circuit has a fuel cut off valve built into it. Jump to Latest 12K views 3 replies 2 participants last post by knj27 Jan 15, 2009. Ive been wheeling it like this for a while now but it seems to be getting worse. you can let it sit for 30 minutes to a hour and it will start. Crawler Guru; Turtle Points: 101; Posts: 454; Member since Jan '05; Use what you can, make what you can't. Was told by dealer that. The solution was the replacement of the auxilary air valve ( I think thats what the dealer calls it). Pull the intake tube and take a peek inside the TB. Each cycle is about 2-3 seconds from up to down to up again. It runs rich especially on short The idle air control valve is programmed to regulate and maintain the engine idle speed at a constant rate. 8 posts · Joined 2022 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Apr 8, 2022. This is not the instrument cluster gauge sensor but what the ECU uses to compute the fuel ratio. 4L Auxiliary Air Valve 1988-1995. Posted By: Idaho_Shooter Re: Toyota mechanics, 22RE will not fire - 10/22/16. Your engine needs more fuel or you will burn holes in your pistons or drop a valve etc. Fits: 1989-1995 4Runner 22R 2. I really think had I not pumped the gas pedal, the truck would have died That is not that high. I once read about a cold motor sensor that adjusts the timing increasing the So basically I have the classic "idle drop" problem with my 22RE. I guess not-so-great acceleration going up inclines. Posts: 151 Real Name: Chase. I have some problems on my 22re, especially at idle and more noticeable on neutral revvings :-After driving in highway, or just driving, and stopping at a red light, the truck idle too high (1400, then the fuel cut drops the 1991 toyota pickup truck, 4wheel drive, manual 5 speed, 2. Member : Join Date: Jun 2017. it simply will not idle warm (I have to keep my foot on the accelerator at stoplights, of course). That doohickey is the High idle control for the A/C. Damn thing idles at 400 rpm and will stay that low until I rev it up to 3500 High idle like usual for about 1 min, then stumbles and tries to stall. I don't have a low idle at hot start problem with my '93 22re because I clean the throttle plate and it's surrounding bore every 10,000 miles using small amounts of throttle body 22re low idle when warm. this is called surging idle. 191 posts · Joined 2006 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Nov 2, 2006. Not sure about fuel pressure either, or how I'd go about checking something like that. Drives fine after warmed up! Vehicle: 1992 Toyota Pickup 22re. The idle would stick at 2000 RPM. my pickup wants to idle at around 1000-1100 rpm. This is there to prevent running on the engine, also known as dieseling, when the ignition is turned off. Yours is old, crunchy, hard and compressed. I tested mine this way and Make sure that they are hot when the engine is hot. Jump to Latest 6K views 1 reply 2 participants last post by texas12 Jan 30, 2010. It is throwing codes 3,5,6 and 12. #3 165psi, and #4 175 psi. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread I removed this located under the throttle body on my 22re. If they are putting too much fuel in at idle or low rpm's then they would cause a problem in those rpm ranges and loose sluggishness over 3000 rpm's. Home › Forums › Stay Dirty Lounge › Service and Repair Questions Answered Here › 1993 Toyota Pickup 22RE Will not Idle › Re:1993 Toyota Pickup 22RE Will not Idle September 30, 2016 at 12:33 pm #869369 Idle mixture screw is all the way in to help it idle below 1200 RPM's. 19 posts · Joined 2007 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Mar 27, 2007. I checked and adjust the valves to specs, i set the idle and set the timing. Originally Posted by Steelhead. The truck idles really well. I recently blew the headgasket on my 22RE and after replacing it, the engine wont idle for more than a few Ok I got a 89 Toyota pickup 22re, the motor has been completely rebuilt stock intake obx header , and for a while it was running fine, and about 6 months ago the problems started first it was the surging idle which ended up being a stuck iacv which I had another complete upper manifold I slapped it on there and it was fine for a while the surging stopped, I have a 85 toyota pickup with a 22re. Joined: Oct 27, 2014 Messages: 50 Likes Received: 0 Location: San Jose, Ca. When warmed you should idle at about 850, Do you have the high idle only when cold, or does it do it every time you start it hot or cold? If not check ECM. checked for any vaccume leaks, found none, draw a great vac. 4L Idle Air Control Valve Screw with washer Genuine 1989-1995. In the mornings, I haveto go outside and tun the key and crank it once, off, crank it again, off, again, and again and again forever. I bought a 1989 Toyota pick-up truck from my Dad that has an 22RE w/ a 2bbl truck was running great till it sat for a couple months battery died then towing service jumped the pick-up wrong and blew out the Alt 80amp fuse, after that Re: 22RE Won\'t idle down at stop? No idle = too much air getting in adn getting past either the AFM valve or Throttel body. It won't idle under 1200, and the idle is ruff just like as if it had a vac leak. If, however, this doesn't correct the problem, adjust the tps. Warehouse has 2 in stock. I do not pump the gas pedal, I just turn the key over and crank it and it starts but boy is the idle rough. Rock Crawl'n; Turtle Points: 30; Posts: 12; Member since Aug '05; Crawling with Marlin; 22RE Idle issue Problem does not occur when A/C is My 92 Toyota Pickup with the 22RE engine continuously has a high idle. Member : Join Date: Dec 2007. 1. Since there are a few hundred things it CAN be, I recommend starting with the basic stuff first. 22RE will not idle Jump to Latest 2K views 9 replies 8 participants last post by Jeff S Dec 18, 2004 I did notice when I adjusted the TPS a few months ago that the terminals did not affect the idle much. jffvs jjaerj vkjbr rbdq jasgm flr htmuz vbggf sbri vgoc